Yep, Deb, at least I know now that red meat (or fat) isn't the problem. I should have known that from my past, but as we know alot of that was forgotten. I tried to go vegan once for spiritual reasons, but I JUST COULD NOT! Looking back, that was part of my problem for falling off too. I felt like such a failure. (See C2B last post...lol...WHEW...That was such an AMAZING unexplainable experience!) So many things occurred all at once back then...lol.