ByeByeCookiesDx's Journal, 11 Jul 14

They do it all themselves! Don't touch the kittens until the mum has started licking them(showing she's accepted it) but if one seems weak and the mum ignores it(thinking it will die anyway and yes nature is cruel) then attempt to give it to the mum in the hope she accepts it too. I'm no expert but this is what I did when I was 8 and saw my cat have kittens and everyone survived:-) 

Agree with Njashka8. Also - make sure the afterbirth (liverish looking thing) is delivered for EACH kitten - and the mother eats it. If you don't see all the afterbirths, take the cat to the vet. They will give her a shot (I believe, but my memory from having been through this some 50 years ago is not quite clear). An undelivered afterbirth can kill the mother. The kittens will sometimes deliver with the sac intact and the mother breaks it. One of my cats was busy cleaning a kitten she had already delivered and seemed to ignore the next one (still in the sac) so I tried to turn her attention to the latest arrival because I was afraid it might be oxygen starved. Fortunately the kitten itself stretched its little claws out broke the sac before I had to. Maybe you can find some info online so you'll feel more prepared. If you don't already know this, the kittens will not open their eyes for a few days (or more, I don't remember what the time frame is). It's very exciting to watch! OH, and sometimes the cat will hide when she is delivering - so if you have a soft, clean nest prepared for her in a quiet and dim place, like a closet -- and show it to her ahead of time, maybe more than once -- she might use it.  

thanks guys, everything went wrong ! q.q idk y but she just started having her kittens on the floor in the middle of the hallway so we quickly put her in a box, then she completely ignored her first kiten and just cleaned herself (I think she though she just pooed or sth ö.ö) so we had to break the sack cause the kitten was dying (it died later on cause it was too weak) then she started having her kittens inpairs so one always got ignored for a while but they all survived (luckily). she ended up having 8 kittens instead of 4 and 3 died since then. we went to the vet when the 2nd one had died and he told us to feed the 2 very small ones with supplement or they'dd die, so we did that but the smallest one that I fed died shortly after I tried feeding her, she wasn't sucking properly and only managed to drink half the amount she was supposed to :( the 5 that are left seem quite healthy but now jura (the mother) took them all with her and made a nest in the far end of a cupboard behing loads of boxes and we cant reach her because the cupboard door doesn't openand if we try to see if the kittens are okay she hisses at us :( she used to be such a sweet cat and yesterday she still started purring when e got closer to her and the kittens.  

That was an ordeal! It's hard when you lose some of the kittens but really most cats can't handle a litter bigger than 5. And sometimes there is something wrong with the littlest ones and the mother somehow knows and ignores them. My last mother cat had 4 and she was gaunt by the time they were weaned, despite unlimited access to food. A lot of mothers move their babies to inaccessible places so probably better to just let her be. When they start really moving around she'll probably let you move them, or she might herself. One cat we had moved the newborn litter to an old bassinet stored in the rafters of the garage! This was a treacherous climb, even for the mother. My parents let her be until they figured the kittens might be big enough to climb out, then brought the bassinet down and put it in a safer place for all of them. By then the mother was ok with it. Motherhood definitely changes the cat; mine became much tougher about the "territory" but she still was the same wonderful pet. Jura is just protecting her litter as her instincts dictate and she'll relax about it all when the kittens are older. So what colors did you get in the litter? My last mother cat had an entire litter of tabbies, pretty much identical except for one with a half-tail (the mom was a manx with a 1/4 tail).  

3 ginger boys (jake, andy and john) 1 white girl with ginger dots (lucy) (actually 2 but one (rosie) died, I think the other 2 who died were also ginger dotted idk :C) and one light gray/white fat girl (misha) :D  

lucy wasn't doing to good today but I managed to feed her 5ml of supplement, jura wasn't eatig since she changed camp so lucys nipple stopped giving milk :( we managed to put all the stuff away and open the door to her side of the closet and feed her there so everything should be fine now, she didn't seem bothered about us picking up her kittens, mom thinks jura probs just wanted a place she could defend in case her brother tried to eat the kittens (he seemed a bit too interested, their miauing does sound a bit like a mouse squeaking)  

They are so cute - well, maybe not so much when newborns. I adopted two male cats once, a kitten and one almost full-grown that came from the same household. They both had the same mother but different litters. The people who had them told me that the older male I adopted "helped" his mother with the young litter. He also let the young kitten nurse on him after they came to live with me. No milk, of course - but is that weird or what? This is not to say I think it's safe to let the male adult cat near the kittens - let the mom be the judge of that. I had an adult male cat in the household when I allowed my last female to have kittens and he assiduously avoided acknowledging them. It was quite funny - it was as if they didn't exist, even when they were 6 weeks old and he was right by them as they had a first outdoor exploration. Would not even look in their direction. I hope things settle down now and Lucy can go back to nursing with the "ginger kids" and Misha. This discussion reminded me of something: When my last mother cat had finished delivering the kittens, cleaned them up and they (I think)had nursed a bit then fallen asleep, she stood up and stretched and gave them a look like "what the heck is THAT?" and promptly left the scene. On seeing that look I was a bit worried that she was going to desert them, but she returned in an hour or so. It's amazing what they do on instinct alone. Human beings are so different!  

yes I know! she definately didn't want to be a mom right after the birth she tried to escape but mom didn't let her. I thought nimbus was trying to help too he seemed friendly but my mom got rly worried when he came cose so she shut him out, he did struggle a lot against being taken away from the kittens though so idk what to think :(